Different people look at different facts and also interpret them differently. Following are my chosen facts about Python programming language and my subjective opinion about these facts, the Python language, and its use for DevOps.
Background
As I do from time to time, I post comparisons between Next Generation Shell (NGS), a shell I’m working on, and other languages, Python included. The comparisons are typically involving some small task that I consider a “typical DevOps task” (defined later). As you can imagine, in these comparisons NGS always wins. First, because NGS was specifically designed for and is actually better for many DevOps tasks. Second, because there is no reason for me to post a comparison where NGS is not better. Anyhow…
After such post on LinkedIn (“Still using #Python for #DevOps? You like to suffer?”), where I compared sample NGS and Python code, a friend asked me why I “hate” Python. My answer was that I’m feeling neutral about Python.
I found the topic of my perception of Python interesting and deserving elaboration.
Python
From my perspective, Python is okayish language, relative to other programming languages.
While I understand people that are annoyed by Python 2 to Python 3 migration and breakage, I also realize that it’s very hard to get things right from the start (or even later).
Few things in Python from the top of my head that are annoying for me:
- Python does not encourage nor supports well basic functional programming:
map()andfilter(). Due to Python’s syntax, the callback lambda can only be single expression. - Instead, it encourages list comprehensions which act as both
map()andfilter(). I don’t like list comprehensions, they don’t align with how I think. Dict comprehensions too. - Typing is afterthought and therefore “The Python runtime does not enforce function and variable type annotations. They can be used by third party tools such as type checkers, IDEs, linters, etc.”
- Conditional expressions (
A if C else B, whereCis the condition) are breaking my head. if __name__ == "__main__"hackidiom is ugly as fuck.
There are annoying things in any language though.
My strongest negative feeling about Python, for which I should mostly blame myself, is parameters handling. While working on NGS, early on, I copied was inspired by parameters handling in Python. The thought was that parameter handling is such a basic thing that (A) I shouldn’t spend much time on it and (B) such established language like Python would get it right. Python didn’t get it right. And I copied that atrocity. They ugly-fixed it later. I’m still thinking how to do it right. The “right” for NGS is likely to differ from the “right” for Python. Also, I would like to avoid making the same mistake for the second time.
What do I actually “hate” about Python?

What I “hate” about Python is surprisingly not Python-specific. It’s the use of square pegs for round holes:
Using Python, Ruby, Go, and other languages that were not intended for “typical DevOps tasks” (looking at resulting code for that judgement) when you have clearly better matching alternatives, including NGS and some other modern shells.
“Typical DevOps tasks” include running external programs and small scale data manipulation (files, structured data, mapping, filtering, pattern matching).
Justifying the Square Pegs
This one is annoying, especially hearing the same arguments for 1000th time.
“But I can do it with libraries”. You can. Also you can do it in Assembler, C or FORTRAN with or without libraries. I do not except the argument. The solutions are not equal.
“It’s not that much of a difference”. Depends on the use case. Run external program in Python and handle exit codes properly and let’s talk then.
More legitimate arguments include:
- “Our team uses Python and so we do DevOps in Python too”
- “We are afraid we will not find Stack Overflow answers if we are stuck”
- “We are afraid we won’t be able to hire developers in this new language”
- “Where is the tooling?”
In my mind, the legitimacy of the arguments above is in reverse proportion with DevOps work volume. The more “DevOps” tasks you do as percentage of your total work, the more advantages of better suited programming languages shine through.
While sometimes the arguments are justified, other times it’s inertia which is holding us back. Like switching away from JavaScript which is not going according to the plan.
Programming Languages in General
Subpar. All of them. At least the ones that I have seen (dozens). Python included. NGS included. We as humanity didn’t figure that out yet. I mean programming languages. We are stuck in paradigms which hold us back.
NGS aims to be less bad for DevOps than the rest because it was designed for the niche. Almost round peg for round hole, way better than the square pegs.
Conclusion
While it might look like I “hate” Python,
- it’s actually all programming languages
- and even more so their inappropriate use and the worst is
- justifying and perpetuating inappropriate use of programming languages
Thanks for reading, have a nice ${TIME_OF_DAY} !
For the curious ones, code comparison follows.
The Code Comparison
During my quest to understand CloudFormation better, I stumbled upon this code:
"Gets the name of the folder with the handler code"
import json
import sys
def main(rpdk_path):
"Get the source folder from rpdk config"
with open(rpdk_path) as f:
obj = json.load(f)
entrypoint = obj["entrypoint"]
print(entrypoint.split(".")[0])
if __name__ == "__main__":
main(sys.argv[1])
To which I responded with NGS version (renaming mostly meaningless obj to conf on the way):
#!/usr/bin/env ngs
# Gets the name of the folder with the handler code
F main(rpdk_path) {
conf = read(rpdk_path).decode_json()
echo(conf.entrypoint.split(".")[0])
}
To which my friend responded with another Python version, which was shorter and did not have main().
Command Line Arguments
Both the original and the shorter version in Python require import sys which shows that dealing with command line arguments is not as “important” in Python as in NGS.
The gap is between additional import in Python and out-of-the-box automatic parsing of command line arguments and passing them to main() in NGS.
JSON
Both Python versions require import json, showing again that it’s easier to deal with JSON in NGS than in Python.
The example would be even shorter if the use case was slightly more typical – the JSON file would have .json extension. read(rpdk_path).decode_json() would become fetch(rpdk_path), leaving Python far behind.
Amazing! You stayed here till the end. Congrats and thanks!
